On a regular basis people sent me photos, to share their enthusiasm for vintage airliners or to illustrate a question. These photos have been lingering in a scrapbook or a discarded box somewhere and/or probably wouldn't find their way to Online-use or publication. |
To prevent them from getting lost, with permission of the sender, I like to share them on this page.
Photos already online (personal websites, airliners.net, jetphotos.net, etc) are not meant to be included here.
With the ever growing popularity of Social Media (Flickr, Facebook, Instagram) the barrier has become much lower for people to share their photographs or scans of slides; imperfection to post aviation images is no longer an issue.
I noticed a decline in requests for publication on my website (a decline I welcome, as I struggle with the workflow) on my 'Guest Pages', so now some of these images shared below will be copied from Facebook & Flickr by me. For preservation of their historic value as I see it; always with proper credit to the photographer, of course!
Btw, while I am on social media, picking up on aviation news, I use it mainly for other interests while my website remains my main focus to share my interest in vintage aviation.
Rolf Larsson added a fine C-119 for my C-119 Dossier
And then George Macadie contributed this excellent photograph of that very same ConvairLiner, c/n 104!
Rolf Larsson sent me a 'mystery candidate' here, in the category what happened to it..?
Whilst on the subject of Convair he threw in a few for good measure..
This thread started by Rolf Larsson prompted Ron Mak (his Vintage Propliners here on ONE - TWO - THREE) to contribute several fine photos in support of msn 99's history and fate.
Sightings at Fort Lauderdale by Ron Mak of CV340 N14CD:
These dates 1980 and 1981 may well have been the last sightings; scrapped at some point after that, alas..
In a recent posting (march 2017) on Facebook I came across a location I did not know offered vintage planes: Lobo Wing of Commemmorative Air Force (CAF) at Moriarty, New Mexico
Screen dump of their website www.lobowing.org/projects/moriarty-hangar/
Facebook page for Beech 18/ C45/ AT11/ SNB Group had a posting (16/3/17) by David White: "Ran across this in Moriarty,NM a couple of days ago. It is behind the CAF Restoration hanger.
No one around so I was unable to learn anything about it."
A photo was included:
Believed to be one of the donor birds for restoration of Beech AT-11 (c/n 877), but which one, where did it come from?
The wing is cut off at the fuselage on this AT-11, maybe to facilitate transport or has been lying around somewhere like this..?
While the identity of this Beech 18 'future project' as yet remains a mystery [EMAIL], Bob Parmerter provided the history of the Beech AT-11 with the Lobo Wing (see website screendump, top):
'This is a WWII veteran, AT-11 41-9451 (c/n 877).
It is being restored by the CAF Lobo Wing at Moriarty.
Delivered 21Jan42 to the Bombardier Training School, Albuquerque, NM. It was sold as surplus in Jan46 for $3,178 as NC52845.
Fifteen civil owners later it has been under restoration here since 2004.
Undated photo of it as N320A via MAP here below.'
SEE MY OTHER PLANE MYSTERIES, SOME SOLVED, OTHER YET TO BE IDENTIFIED
David Lehman reached out to the 'Beech 18' forum (Yahoo) for help and Bob Parmerter offered some; perhaps more information will be forthcoming this publication (EMAIL)
Bob wrote in reply to David's email (below): "I don’t have a definitive answer as to the fate of N8042H but
some history is added (further below) and a nice color scan of it from a Larry Smalley slide.
Larry and Billl Larkins often traded images (Bill shot B&W) and Larry color slides."
Bob Parmerter offered the following:
From Bob's files-
SEE MY OTHER PLANE MYSTERIES, SOME SOLVED, OTHER YET TO BE IDENTIFIED
Keeping on the subject of 'aircraft resurrections' this fine contribution by Ralph Pettersen fits very well here!
'This Flickr set contains a lot of photos and videos of the Convairs in AZ while being prepared for flight': www.flickr.com/photos/cactusbillaz/albums/72157671324596692 -/Nicolai
Photos by Ralph M. Pettersen:
Ralph's post has been editted slightly to abbreviate a little and represent here only the main details.
The aircraft is currently configured with a VIP area in the front of the aircraft, with regular 4-across seating in the rear as shown in the photos.
The restoration is expected to be complete by mid-July and plans on showcasing the airplane at AirVenture 2017 in Oshkosh.
The cost of restoring an airplane of this size to a pure freighter is upwards of $400K, but the additional cost of making it into a quick change aircraft is significant and Carlos Gomez is reaching out to the enthusiast community for donations to make the restoration a reality.
Having adressed the subject of plane restorations in advanced stages, this is another one I am looking forward to though it
hasn't a clear schedule for the intended flight to the Netherlands. A deadline may be the 100th aaniversary of KLM in 2019.
An excellent photo by Erwin Stam ('ErwinS') seems a fitting opportunity to put the spotlight on this worthy cause!
Whiel I have written the history on my page Visit to S.AFRICA 2004, here is a 15Mar17 screendump of ATDB.aero -
Gordon Tatro sent me this USAF C-47, tailnumber 0-48073. He wrote: "this is C-47 48073, 20-22Dec1970 at
Torrejon AB, Madrid in Spain."
I think that is an
Gordon replied: "Heating duct. We are not trying to cool the plane down we are trying to heat it up! This is december."
Later on Gordon sent another photo of (probably) '073, which I added on Photos by Friends & Guests (49).
An even more detailed history is from Air-Britain's DC-3, The First Seventy Years:
Gordon wrote as a follow up to the above: "I have some more pictures and will get them to you but it will take some time.
Gordon wrote: "The picture of 0-48073 on take-off had troops in it and they jumped (parachutists).
The stay out there at Bad Tolz was about 4 days, so there were many touch-and-goes and troops to jump.
I took care of the plane doing jobs such as: Pre-flight & Basic post-flight (BPO) inspections; to include fuel & oil and did the hydraulic servicing, etc.
I did not always fly with them but my work day was (basically) before it flew and after it came back.
The cargo door is off here, because there were to be jumpers or some bags of supplies were to be dropped to 'supply' troops already on the ground; these were all training situations.
The APR (Airman Proficiency Reports) forms are one set (front and back) of the few that I have remaining. This one is specifically interesting as if you look to the last signature 'Reeder'.
I was instrumental in helping the C-47 get fixed (I got a commendation for that effort) when everyone else
could not figure out what was wrong with the number 1 engine on take-off & climb-out. Not sure if that was 073
or 219, I just have to dig up my old military records, they should be in a box somewhere in my storage locker...I hope!"
Much of my stuff is lost... With all the moves I made and then a had handicapped daughter (born in 1988 in Germany), the stress of moves and all the hospitals and preme incubators, etc. etc. I got to the point where stuff just got missing.
Frankly, for all the nine years I was in Germany (I went back in 1982 with my ex-wife to be) and we had tons of valuable items. Now as I look up from my keyboard, I see only three rather cheap beer steins and one beer stein from the 1985 Oktoberfest in Munich!
"I guess for all the time I spent at Ramstein AB the period 1970-1973 was the most exciting and different (Korat, Thailand with the EC121Rs was more about routine orbits mostly over Laos & Cambodia and some over Vietnam).
Fred Goth had his 1967 photo shared on facebook by 'Verenigde Vleugels'; a scene of 50 years ago!
The caption read (my translation, RL):
History of c/n 332: HB-IMC (Swissair) - PH-MAL (Martinair) - N640R (Zantop + Century A/L + C&M A/w) and, after a number of years having been stored at El Paso,TX (aprox. 2004 - 2009) to presently XA-UNH (Aeronaves TSM) and last reported 22Dec16 @Hamilton,ONT operational!
On the left in th ephoto is the tail of Lockheed L.188 Electra PH-LLH. I can't identify the aircraft in the distance, though I feel that triangle on the tail should mean something to me; TMA of Lebanon?
Beech SNB-5 / TC-45 N3484: sold but not saved?
Its history, briefly, until this sale:'39208 (MSN 4292) remanufactured to SNB-5 c1954 (new MSN N-637).
This Beech was photographed and identified (w/ full history by Bob Parmerter) on Photos by Friends & Guests (9) and later shown again on Photos by Friends & Guests (13).
It seems it was sold by auction and then very soon after offered for parts on Barnstormer.com? Or parts taken off & offered for sale while the remaining airframe is offered for free on condition it is moved elsewhere in its entirety?
The wheels and brakes are thought to be about the only parts left of any value, though I could see ornamental value in it (plenty of examples on roundabouts, entertainment parks or with a transportation or science museum).
Having read the finalizing stages of C-FNJE's restoration project I posted queries on Yahoo fora and WIX (Warbirds)
for similar end-staged projects. This led to below info on ex/ Rovos Air Convair CV340 ZS-BRV.
I came across Convair ZS-BRV in 2004, when still operated by Rovos Air; see my 2004 South Africa report.
Nigel Hitchman provided this 2012 photo, taken duren a visit, to illustrate the news on the restoration of C-FNJE: first flight after
restoration is expected this (2017) summer!
First flight after restoration expected in june 2017: www.savethecanso.com/
And indeed, I learned that on 18Jun2017 C-FNJE made '1st post-restoration flight'. Congratulations!
This here is
Lockheed L-15/PV-2 Harpoon N7249C (c/n 15-1137). One time owner Quarry Products in mid-1990s and reported as 'stored in not too good condition' in my database.
It galled me that I found this ‘Poon on Google Earth which I more or less passed in 2014...
Bill Bailey was able to give me the lowdown: "Hi Ruud, N7249C is in the same place outside John Lanes Airpower Unlimited operation, and with the same owner who has enough interest to keep it, but not enough money to do anything with it... It's been gutted inside and all the control surfaces are off, but all the valuables are in storage.
It looks bad from the outside, but it's still a good candidate for restoration!"
Here is a March 2017 photo by Martin Jr 'JoeJoe' Prince, of Curtiss C-46F N1822M at Bethel,AK still going strong:
The history of N1822M I have detailed on my page Alaska 1955, when I first came across it.
Now who would have thought that a C-46 stored in Everts' donor yard in Fairbanks,Alaska for many years would make
Rolf Larsson wrote me and asked for help to pinpoint the scrap date of this Convair VT-29B N144GT ...
"I noticed the picture of Convair VT-29B c/n 275 N144GT in your 'Propliners in Florida, 1992' section.
N144GT was damaged by Hurricane Andrew in 1992 at Miami's Tamiami airport, but apparently not scrapped immediately. Some work was done and I pictured it at Tamiami on 25Oct1995; however I believe it is doubtful
if it ever flew after the hurricane damage.. ? I have seen, on the internet, that the hulk of N144GT has been
observed at Tamiami, perhaps someone has info about when it was finally scrapped?" EMAIL
Paul Hooper provided the following image on Classic-Propliners, on 25Apr2017:
Paul wrote: "Just came across this photo of N144GT taken at New Tamiami on 23Feb1993. Not much sign of damage to the fin although the presence of the gantry would probably indicate that it was being worked on."
That date 1993 is relevant because sometime afterwards it was suddenly gone: repaired and flown out? For illegal use, like a thief in the night..?
C-54 N1220V of Seaboard & Western.
This is one of a batch of 9 I added 05Mar17 to Bill Hill's vintage aviation photos.
Belatedly I found out that Grumman HU-16B 51-7200 was scrapped as a result of the closing of Chanute Aerospace Museum,IL.
Octave Chanute (b.18Feb1832, Paris – 23Nov1910, Chicago,IL) was an American civil engineer and aviation pioneer, born in France.
A few quotes I found here: www.illinoishomepage.net/news/local-news/chanute-air-museum-closing-for-good/80126356
The Chanute Air Force Base opened in 1917 and closed in 1993 due to defense cuts. The museum opened a year later in 1994. Over 1.5 million troops trained at the base in its 75 years of operation.
The museum picked up Chanute's history where the military left it. For 20+ years, donations, volunteers and the city helped preserve that history.
10,000 - 15,000 people visit the museum each year. It costs around $10,000 per month to operate the non-profit. About half of that is rent the museum paid to the village. It's actually a discounted price. If the museum was to stay open, it would cost an extra $64,000 each month which is the amount of the costs the village has been absorbing all this time.
The Air Museum has two planes on loan from the U.S. Navy and 32 artifacts, including 28 planes form the Air Force. Other artifacts include a Minuteman missile which stands next to the entrance and a Hound Dog missile. There are plenty of other things in storage visitors haven't seen.
"Chanute’s P-51H Moving to Museum of Aviation at Warner Robins.
A FINAL LOOK, SEPT.2015:www.warbirdalley.com/articles/chanute.htm
"I was sorely disappointed that the museum has permanently closed, effective November, 2015.
'Highlights of the museum included a collection of over 40 aircraft including military fighters, bombers, rescue, recon, and cargo aircraft.
Museum curator Mark Hanson said: "An F-104 Starfighter was shipped out to Tyson McGhee International Guard Base near Knoxville,TN."
A series of photos dated 2008: forums.ubi.com/showthread.php/342240-Chanute-Air-Museum-Pics-Forums
Keep me posted on aeroplanes scrapped or moved: EMAIL - thank you!
Chris Brame replied, through the WIX forum: "You're welcome to use any of the photos from Chanute in my
Today, 27Feb17, I made a very nice update to the gallery of Kenneth 'Ken' Swartz, here is one of them:
Dirk Septer almost overlooked this snow covered Twin Beech at Campbell River, BC (Feb.2017)
Beech TC-45G, c/n AF-80. C-GAIV briefly appeared in the 2002 movie 'Insomnia', starring Al Pacino.
An extensive history and more about C-GAIV in Insomnia can be read on Dirk Septer's gallery on this website
The above C-119 is one of several C-119 images added to Ron Mak's Gallery on my website, including more details on
Some of these vintage airliners end up in the most amazing places! Like HS.748 C-GGNZ with Tactik Paintball in Ottawa
TACTIK PAINTBALL - 1840, Boulevard Maloney Gatineau, QUE J8R 3Z4
YOU MAY WANT TO VISIT MY OFF-AIRPORT GALLERY, WITH PLANES IN A SIMILAR FATE!
Vickers Viking 1A ZS-DKH (c/n 121) to SAA Museum by road.
"In January 1963 it was placed on the roof of a Caltex Garage owned by aircraft engineer Victor Edward de Villiers where it stayed for 27 years, before being moved to OR Tambo airport, where it stayed for another 27 years."
JNB/FAJS on Wikipedia (From 'Jan Smuts IAP' to 'OR Tambo')
You might also want to check out Lockheed Starliner ZS-DVJ, photos & memories by Erik Eriksson
As an update to one of the images on Bill Hill's Vintage Aviation Photos, Alfonso Flores forwarded me
this image to illustrate a previous identity of Lockheed L.049 Constellation XA-MAG.
The photographer is unknown, the location is Mexico City around 1956.
Was very pleased with this weekend's 12 photos update to Bill Hill's vintage aviation photos, here are two:
In addition to Tim's photos further down this page he also shared these from the same aug.2014 trip:
Wreck at Gimli, 2014.
Tim Chaloner wrote (Feb.2017): "In addition to our visit to St. Andrews, my brother Howard and I also drove up to Gimli. We had hoped to see Saunders ST-28 C-GYAP that was stored there, but it was gone! I think we missed
seeing it by a year or two. However, at the south end of the airport we did find this wreckdumped in the bushes!
I discussed its identity with the WCAM Museum (and with Roy Blewett), and it can only be an uncompleted part
of an ST-27/28. If this info is not correct, please let me know!" EMAIL (read instructions carefully).
You may want to visit my page on a 2007 visit to Gimli, with images of the A Saunders ST-28 C-GYAP (c/n 101)
Fred Barnes shared this recent (04Feb2017) image of G-APWA, preserved outside the Berkshire Air Museum.
Fred wrote: "G-APWA was a company demonstrator and was flown worldwide before it was preserved at Woodley in March 1993. Shown in the famous BEA 'Red Square' livery. Looks like the airframe has been cleaned recently."
Nigel Hitchman provided a very nice update on the DC-3 at Besat Park (Tehran) taken during his visit in Feb.2017
See more on planes & mysteries at Tehran's Iranian Aerospace Exhibition Centre, my page HERE...
Tim Chaloner shared with me in Feb.2017 a few images for my website; Tim wrote:"I was recently in contact with Roy Blewett of 'Survivors' and we were discussing the stored aircraft that I saw when I visited St. Andrews, Manitoba/CYAV in August, 2014.
He thought you might be interested to see the photos I took at the Western Canada Aviation Museum storage yard at St. Andrews, in relation to what Norman Smith shared on Photos by Friends & Guests (47). My primary mission was to see a Saunders ST-27 for the first time, and luckily, one was there!"
And another one:
On the subject of the Bristol 149 Bolingbroke IV, you may want to check out my visit to a rather unique location near Brandon,Man in 2007: HERE..
"My brother Howard and I asked if we could take a look in the storage building, and luckily the employee had the key!"
Alas, I am unable to tie this registration CF-BQT to a Noorduyn Norseman... I did find a Boeing 247 (exported)
After having shared my findings in 'CF-BQT' Tim concluded: "I have spoken with my brother who also took photos
Also stored inside, among many aviation parts:
Ken Swartz recently shared these images with me as he had been on a glorious propliner roadtrip on the US westcoast last year.
See also more of Ken's propliner images on my website HERE...
|Ron Mak sent me this photo in Feb.2017 during another period of activity researching The Tangled Histories of Colombian DC-6s HK-1776 and HK-1776-W.
He sent me below photo, but alas found on secound examination, that it was a very similar DC-6, HK-1276-W.
But too interesting not to share, I thought!
DC-6 HK-1276-W at Villavicencio on 19feb93 by Ron Mak
Ron wrote when sending this image (translation NL->EN by RL):
"The DC-6 arrived in a sneaky way, I remember that well! And it rolled on until the far end of the airfield.
We started walking in that direction, to get a better picture, but we were stopped and not allowed to proceed.
The photo was made during the landing and unfortunately out of focus, it took me by surprise.
In those days you could walk up to that part of the airport without a problem and the refusal this time made me suspect we were stopped because HK-1276W was transporting a load nobody should see..?"
|Gordon Tatro sent me this 03Feb2017, in the aftermath of an interesting contribution to my C-119 Dossier
Gordon referred me to this website for images and background info: www.westin553.net/batcat16.htm which has this...
"Shown here are 3 views (see compilations below or follow link above) of 'Gordon Tatro standing next to an EC-121R Engine with the cowling open', 'Sitting on the engine with the cowling open', 'Standing on the ground under the engine with the cowling open'.
NOTE - there is a caption on image tatro08a.jpg which identifies the engine as a '3360-92D radial' engine. The EC-121R was powered by the Wright "turbocompound R-3350-93A-42A" radial engine.
Gordon was assigned to the 553rd OMS at Korat RTAFB, Thailand.
Gordon wrote: "Here is me on the prop of my aircraft in Thailand, a EC-121R Lockheed Constellation (USAF 67-21483)."
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